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Ricky Nelson’s 2012 Week 8 top 10

The AVCA Week 8 poll comes out Tuesday.

My rank, (my Week 7 rank, AVCA Week 7 rank), noteworthy results this week
1 (1, 1). Washington-St. Louis 24-2 Idle.
2 (2, 4). Calvin 23-2 W: Hope.
3 (4, 3). Wittenberg 19-4 W: Hiram, Marietta.
4 (3, 2). Hope 24-3 L: Calvin.
5 (5, 6). Emory 27-4 W: Eastern, Juniata, Heidelberg.
6 (6, 7). St. Thomas 30-1 W: Augsburg.
7 (7, 5). Christopher Newport 28-2 W: Averett, Piedmont.
8 (9, 8). Cal Lutheran 21-4 W: La Verne, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps.
9 (10, 10). Elmhurst 25-7 W: Wartburg, UW-Stevens Point, UW-Eau Claire.
10 (NR, 14). Mount Union 20-5 W: Otterbein.
Dropped out: No. 8 Otterbein (20-7).

The Standout Stats and Standings/Big Matchups pages are updated.

My top five matches of the week:
10/23 Elmhurst vs. North Central (Ill.)
10/24 Wartburg vs. Coe
10/24 Saint Benedict vs. Bethel
10/26 UW-Whitewater vs. UW-River Falls
10/27 Cornell vs. St. Norbert

-Ricky Nelson

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Written by Ricky Nelson

October 21, 2012 at 10:09 pm

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  1. How often do regional rankings get released?

    Marci Novak

    October 23, 2012 at 2:50 pm

  2. Public regional rankings are released on the last three Thursdays of the season (this season that’s Oct. 18, Oct. 25, Nov. 1). But it gets hard to explain after that.

    One more set of rankings – the most important rankings – is compiled in the days between conference tourneys and selection day. Conference tournament games count as in-region contest, so there are a handful of matches that can change the third “public” rankings.

    However, the public doesn’t get to see those traditionally. Some sport committees treat the fourth and last regional rankings differently. Some publish the final orders after the field is selected while some do not. I was the national columnist for D3baseball.com. I asked the assistant director of championships if he would release the fourth and final regional rankings and he agreed to. But those released were the final orders of the regional committees only, not the working final order of the national committee. So, that can be confusing as well. I never understood why those rankings are not made public in some sports. Full disclosure is preferred obviously.

    Another confusing fact is that the three public rankings are typically the opinions of the regional committees, which are made up of reps (coaches and administrators) from each of the conferences in the regions and independent institutions where appropriate. The fourth and final rankings – and sometimes the regular-season ones – have input from the national committee, which is the eight chairs of the regional committees. The national committee has the right (and obligation) to change the rankings of the regional committees if there are inconsistencies with the rankings in relation to the selection criteria.

    So, in short there are three public rankings and one final set of rankings. But even if your team is second in the third regional rankings, there’s a chance that you don’t make the field on selection day. That happened to Chicago in baseball. Seemingly a lock because of its high ranking, the national committee decided that the regional committee didn’t have the correct order and the No. 2 team in the region was not selected as an at-large team. That fact also stands as a reason why I comment on the rankings. Sometimes the committees have interesting orders. Sometimes those orders are incorrect ultimately.

    I typed more than requested, but the short answer is the last three Thursdays of the regular season, which includes any conference tourney matches. But the other confusing facts are necessary in the explanation. Then again I have a very strong handle of how the rankings and selections are derived, but I have a hard time putting it into simple words. Probably because it is not simple to explain.

    -Ricky Nelson

    uwoshvball

    October 23, 2012 at 5:10 pm

  3. […] My Week 8 top 10 is similar to AVCA’s. I have the same teams but a slightly different order. […]

  4. Thank you! That helps a lot!

    Marci Novak

    October 23, 2012 at 10:41 pm


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